Calling all PM Felicity lovers!

[AngieGill]

BEcca,
Thanks for the info.. that clears things up for me as far as the body switching goes..

I would bet that they had an overabundance of bodies already made and that is why we saw them with the '86 tags.. that would make sense..

Does anyone know anything more about these 'prototype' Lissies? What exactly is ment when Lissies are refered to as prototypes? From designers I have talked to, usually a prototype is a sample created by the artist that was presented for approval for manufacturing. Usually prototypes are one of a kinds. Obviously, this is not what is ment when Lissies are refered to as Prototypes.. can someone help me better understand the 'going's on' with Lissies being refered to as that.. I am confused...

Thanks gals!

[beccachris]

Angie,

I think the ones that are referred to as "prototypes", are the very first run of dolls released.

Now I don't know if that means the ones with the 1986 body tag or not. And again, I don't know if these dolls had been made up prior to 1991 (in anticipation of an earlier release date) and then held until the actual release in 1991.

Or maybe there were Felicity dolls that the Gotz company made up for Pleasant Rowland prior to 1991 and that was the first run of dolls released - hence they are called prototypes? I don't believe you will ever find a Felicity with any paperwork labeling that particular doll as a "prototype".

[AngieGill]

Oh!! Okay..that makes sense to me now! [img]graemlins/thumbs_up.gif[/img] Thanks Becca.. then they are actually 1st Run dolls and not prototypes at all.. that makes sense to me now.

Well, I dont know what I have, but she has brilliant red hair and no tag.. she has a smaller body that is a lighter shade of tan and her arms and legs are the soft squishy vinyl like that of the really old dolls. I wonder what she is.. I will may never know.. I know I love her though! LOLOL!!! Geesh, you are good at this... I know who to run to if I have a question.

[Skittl1321]

Wouldn't 1986 bodies be white though? I thought all Felicity bodies were tanned. So it doesn't seem they would be premade...


Or perhaps I misunderstood.

[AngieGill]

I dont know anything about white bodies... that is why I was asking about it all to help me get cleared up on it.. how many years did they have the white bodies? I have seen where a lot of people ask sellers on auctions what color the lissies' bodies are.. and I, like you, thought that all Lissies had tan bodies.. Could it be that the tags are just signifying a copyright date maybe? I dont know.. ?????? [img]confused.gif[/img]

edited for my lousey spelling! LOL!

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[beccachris]

Well, I think they knew they could not release a white body Felicity doll because her dresses had lower necklines and the white body would show. I honestly think (don't know for sure though), that there were Felicity dolls made up by Gotz for Pleasant Rowland prior to Felicity's 1991 release and for whatever reason they put that 1986 body tag on her.

Angie~ You're gonna make me blush! [img]redface.gif[/img] I sure don't know everything about the PM Felicity dolls, but I read everything I could find on this message board regarding them before I started my search for my Felicity. I guess I'm just like a big sponge - LOL - soaked all that info up!

[beccachris]

Go to this website and read about the history of Pleasant Company - gives you some background and an idea of when the body colors changed. (I knew I had read this somewhere - LOL)

http://www.midnightmo.com/AGdolls/Co.../Main/main.htm

[AngieGill]

Becca,
I guess I just got lucky with the doll I got.. I knew that the really bright red hair on these dolls was a sure sign of a VERY early issue of Felicity and the redish auburn eyelashes too. I can tell when I hold a doll in my hands just by feeling her, if she is Pre Mattel.. they have smaller bodies.. well the early ones do.. and their arms and legs are soft vinyl.. the new dolls are very hard. Call me crazy, but I noticed this when Iwas sick this past winter with the flu and I had my 'Holly' doll with me in bed while I watched TV.. I am such a little girl inside.. LOL! She felt differently in my arms.. they are more cuddly, the older PM dolls, dontcha think? And smaller too!

[Skittl1321]

I have no idea how long they used white bodies for (although I am almost positive they stopped when lissie was released for all dolls.) But I got my tan body Kirsten for Christmas in 1989.

[beccachris]

Angie,

My Lissie (with the body tag) is "lighter" than DD's Lissie (she's actually kinda chunky - shhhh!). And my Lissie has the brighter red hair also. I must confess that Felicity is my favorite!

I also prefer the PM dolls to hold. I think they just feel sturdier or something, and I LOVE their soft, natural looking eyelashes.